Frequently Asked Questions
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Standings Questions
Which games count in the STANDINGS i.e., for tournament qualification?
Do all games count in the STANDINGS?
except for when two teams play each other and neither is registered for a competitive sanctioned tournament.
In addition, games can count in some STANDINGS but not others. All of this will be explained below. Also, from 1996 to 2008, ENYTB used a very different STANDINGS methodology that is still available but not currently used. It is described below as well.
As explained in GO HERE, ENYTB radically changed its STANDINGS methodology in 2009 and again in 2010. The following Q & A will highlight the characteristics of the new STANDINGS methodology in terms of what games are counted where.
Q Do all games count in each STANDINGS?
A No. A game between two teams of two different ages will NEVER count in the STANDINGS at the younger age. But, if the younger team is double registered (DR), the game would count in all STANDINGS at the older age where one or both opponents is included.
Each competitive sanctioned tournament has its own STANDINGS. The maximum eligible age for each competitive sanctioned tournament is called its primary age. Any game between any two teams where both are of that primary age and at least one is registered to be eligible for this competitive sanctioned tournament i.e., an "included" team, shall count in that STANDINGS.
For example, Team A is 10U and registered for the PONY10 tournament. Every game it plays with every 10U opponent (opponent must be an ENYTB registered team) counts in the PONY10 STANDINGS, regardless of whether that opponent is registered for PONY10 or not.
Furthermore, every game between a younger aged team double registered (DR) into the primary age and a team equal to the primary age, shall count as well.
For example, Team B is 9U and double registered. Every game it plays vs a 10U team or another 9U DR team, will count in each 10U STANDINGS, provided one or both teams are included in that STANDINGS.
When two teams of the same age play each other, and both teams are DR, that game will count in all STANDINGS at both age levels i.e., the team's actual age level as well as its DR age level, provided at least one of the teams is included in the STANDINGS.
For example, two 11U teams are DR and both are registered for PONY11 and AABC11. Each time they play each other, regardless of the number of times, will count in the PONY11 STANDINGS and the AABC11 STANDINGS. On the other hand, when either 11DR team plays a 12U team, that game will count in any 12U STANDINGS where the 12U team is included. Also, if either 11U team is also registered for a competitive sanctioned tournament at 12U, say PONY12, the game between the two 11DR teams would count in the PONY12U STANDINGS as well.
ENYTB Original Approach - no longer used (included for reference purposes only).
For a game to count in the STANDINGS, both teams had to be in the same STANDINGS. (Not true in ENYTB's new FLEX approach.)
What STANDINGS a team was in depended on what sanctioned tournaments it registered to be eligible for as well as its power rating. (Remains generally true, though PONY and NABF standings combine teams from all competition levels.)
Even when two teams are in the same STANDINGS, whether the game counts in that STANDINGS will depend on how many times the two teams actually play each other, compared to their head-to-head play requirenment (H2H Cap) in that STANDINGS. If the STANDINGS require the two teams to play each other twice, and they actually play three times, the third game would not count in that particular STANDINGS but it would be used as a head-to-head tie-breaker if nec. A 4th game, under these circumstances would not count for even a tie-breaker. (FLEX eliminates H2H Caps.)
Each tournament qualify game is bracketed in a yellow border on the team's online schedule and a "Tournament Qualifying Game" link tells the team what STANDINGS the game counts in as well other related information.
To explain further:
Tournament berths are assigned to each STANDINGS before the season begins. Games between opponents in the same division(s) are referred to as "tournament qualifying" games up to a number equal to that division's "head-to-head requirement", displayed at top of each division STANDINGS (MPR=?).
For example, say MPR = 2. All teams in that division would be required to play each other at least twice. If two teams are scheduled to play only two times, then both games would be "TQG" and would count in the STANDINGS.
If a third game is scheduled between the same two teams, the results of the first two games actually played, in chronological order, would count in the STANDINGS. If all three games are played in the same chronological order as originally scheduled, the third game would count only as a head-to-head tie-breaker, if necessary. However, if the first game was canceled and never played, the last two games scheduled would become the first two games "actually played", and they would both count in the STANDINGS as TQG. On the other hand, if the first game was rescheduled and played before the third game on the schedule was played, it would still count in the STANDINGS because it would qualify as one of the first two games actually played between these two opponents. This is one reason why it is important to keep your schedule up to date with postponements and reschedules so that all games are listed in the chronological order they are actually played.
If two teams are in more than one division together, the MPR in both divisions is relevant. Let's say two teams are in three divisions together and the MPR1 = 1, MPR2 = 2, and MPR3 = 3. In this case, the first game actually played between these two opponents would count in all three divisions. The 2nd game would count in divisions 2 and 3 only (no head-to-head tie-breaker is necessary in division 1 because MPR = 1 = odd). The 3rd game would count in division 3 only but it would serve as the head-to-head tiebreaker in division 2, if necessary (if teams split their two must play games 1-1). If a 4th game was played, it would be an "extra game" and would not count in any STANDINGS. In this case it would not be needed as a tie-breaker because the teams have played an odd number (3) of TQG and the head to head tie-breaker would break all ties.
Yes
except for when two teams play each other and neither is registered for a competitive sanctioned tournament.
In addition, games can count in some STANDINGS but not others. All of this will be explained below. Also, from 1996 to 2008, ENYTB used a very different STANDINGS methodology that is still available but not currently used. It is described below as well.
As explained in GO HERE, ENYTB radically changed its STANDINGS methodology in 2009 and again in 2010. The following Q & A will highlight the characteristics of the new STANDINGS methodology in terms of what games are counted where.
Q Do all games count in each STANDINGS?
A No. A game between two teams of two different ages will NEVER count in the STANDINGS at the younger age. But, if the younger team is double registered (DR), the game would count in all STANDINGS at the older age where one or both opponents is included.
Each competitive sanctioned tournament has its own STANDINGS. The maximum eligible age for each competitive sanctioned tournament is called its primary age. Any game between any two teams where both are of that primary age and at least one is registered to be eligible for this competitive sanctioned tournament i.e., an "included" team, shall count in that STANDINGS.
For example, Team A is 10U and registered for the PONY10 tournament. Every game it plays with every 10U opponent (opponent must be an ENYTB registered team) counts in the PONY10 STANDINGS, regardless of whether that opponent is registered for PONY10 or not.
Furthermore, every game between a younger aged team double registered (DR) into the primary age and a team equal to the primary age, shall count as well.
For example, Team B is 9U and double registered. Every game it plays vs a 10U team or another 9U DR team, will count in each 10U STANDINGS, provided one or both teams are included in that STANDINGS.
When two teams of the same age play each other, and both teams are DR, that game will count in all STANDINGS at both age levels i.e., the team's actual age level as well as its DR age level, provided at least one of the teams is included in the STANDINGS.
For example, two 11U teams are DR and both are registered for PONY11 and AABC11. Each time they play each other, regardless of the number of times, will count in the PONY11 STANDINGS and the AABC11 STANDINGS. On the other hand, when either 11DR team plays a 12U team, that game will count in any 12U STANDINGS where the 12U team is included. Also, if either 11U team is also registered for a competitive sanctioned tournament at 12U, say PONY12, the game between the two 11DR teams would count in the PONY12U STANDINGS as well.
ENYTB Original Approach - no longer used (included for reference purposes only).
For a game to count in the STANDINGS, both teams had to be in the same STANDINGS. (Not true in ENYTB's new FLEX approach.)
What STANDINGS a team was in depended on what sanctioned tournaments it registered to be eligible for as well as its power rating. (Remains generally true, though PONY and NABF standings combine teams from all competition levels.)
Even when two teams are in the same STANDINGS, whether the game counts in that STANDINGS will depend on how many times the two teams actually play each other, compared to their head-to-head play requirenment (H2H Cap) in that STANDINGS. If the STANDINGS require the two teams to play each other twice, and they actually play three times, the third game would not count in that particular STANDINGS but it would be used as a head-to-head tie-breaker if nec. A 4th game, under these circumstances would not count for even a tie-breaker. (FLEX eliminates H2H Caps.)
Each tournament qualify game is bracketed in a yellow border on the team's online schedule and a "Tournament Qualifying Game" link tells the team what STANDINGS the game counts in as well other related information.
To explain further:
Tournament berths are assigned to each STANDINGS before the season begins. Games between opponents in the same division(s) are referred to as "tournament qualifying" games up to a number equal to that division's "head-to-head requirement", displayed at top of each division STANDINGS (MPR=?).
For example, say MPR = 2. All teams in that division would be required to play each other at least twice. If two teams are scheduled to play only two times, then both games would be "TQG" and would count in the STANDINGS.
If a third game is scheduled between the same two teams, the results of the first two games actually played, in chronological order, would count in the STANDINGS. If all three games are played in the same chronological order as originally scheduled, the third game would count only as a head-to-head tie-breaker, if necessary. However, if the first game was canceled and never played, the last two games scheduled would become the first two games "actually played", and they would both count in the STANDINGS as TQG. On the other hand, if the first game was rescheduled and played before the third game on the schedule was played, it would still count in the STANDINGS because it would qualify as one of the first two games actually played between these two opponents. This is one reason why it is important to keep your schedule up to date with postponements and reschedules so that all games are listed in the chronological order they are actually played.
If two teams are in more than one division together, the MPR in both divisions is relevant. Let's say two teams are in three divisions together and the MPR1 = 1, MPR2 = 2, and MPR3 = 3. In this case, the first game actually played between these two opponents would count in all three divisions. The 2nd game would count in divisions 2 and 3 only (no head-to-head tie-breaker is necessary in division 1 because MPR = 1 = odd). The 3rd game would count in division 3 only but it would serve as the head-to-head tiebreaker in division 2, if necessary (if teams split their two must play games 1-1). If a 4th game was played, it would be an "extra game" and would not count in any STANDINGS. In this case it would not be needed as a tie-breaker because the teams have played an odd number (3) of TQG and the head to head tie-breaker would break all ties.
